Tuesday, May 6, 2014

Here is a list of Job Fairs happening in the Month of May:

Here is a list of Job Fairs happening in the Month of May:

Wednesday, May 7
Who: Alberta Works Hiring Events with The Home Depot
Where: Alberta Works Centre Fisher Park II 100, 6712 Fisher Street, S.E., Calgary
Time: 1:00 p.m. to 3:00 p.m
What: The Home Depot is hiring Merchandising Execution Associates for multiple locations in Calgary. These positions are responsible for correct display of products, product knowledge, assisting customers and working as a team. Part-time and full-time employment is available Monday to Friday in shifts between 6 a.m. and 3 p.m., no evenings or weekends

Thursday, May 8
Who: Alberta Works Hiring Events with The Home Depot
Where: Alberta Works Centre Radisson Centre Main Floor, 525 28 Street S.E.
Time: 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m
What: The Home Depot is hiring Merchandising Execution Associates for multiple locations in Calgary. These positions are responsible for correct display of products, product knowledge, assisting customers and working as a team. Part-time and full-time employment is available Monday to Friday in shifts between 6 a.m. and 3 p.m., no evenings or weekends

Who: Alberta Works Mini Job Fair!
Where: Alberta Works Centre Radisson Centre Main Floor, 525 28 Street S.E.
Time: 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m
What: Positions Include:
- Customer Service, Cashiers and Stock Associates
- General Labourers Construction
- Warehouse Personnel
-  Brand Ambassadors
Bring your resume and come prepared for an interview! For more information and job descriptions, please visit here.

Who: Alberta Works Hiring Events with The Home Depot
Where: Alberta Works Centre One Executive Place 1816 Crowchild Trail N.W.
Time: 1:00 p.m. to 3:30 p.m
What: The Home Depot is hiring Merchandising Execution Associates for multiple locations in Calgary. These positions are responsible for correct display of products, product knowledge, assisting customers and working as a team. Part-time and full-time employment is available Monday to Friday in shifts between 6 a.m. and 3 p.m., no evenings or weekends

Who: Banff/Canmore Spring Hiring Fair
Where:
 Cascade Plaza (317 Banff Ave Banff, AB T1L 1A1)
Time: 2 p.m. to 4 p.m
What: Check the website for more details


Please check back often as this list is always updating. Or go to our Facebook Page where new job fairs are posted

Monday, April 14, 2014

More Job Fairs In Calgary

Tuesday, April 22, 2014

Who:  Alberta Works Hiring Event with Nurse Next Door Home Care Services
Where:
Calgary North - One Executive Place Alberta Works Centre 1816 Crowchild Trail, N.W. Calgary
Time:
1:00 p.m. to 3:30 p.m.
What:  Hiring RN’s, LPN’s, Caregivers and Companion Caregivers.
- Flexible work arrangements available
- Vehicle not required
- Bring your up-to-date resumé.

Tuesday, April 29

Who:  Alberta Works Who's ALIS
Where:
Fernandes Multi-Purpose Room 1001-10 Avenue S.W. Calgary
Time: 10:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m.   
What:
Surf the Alberta Learning Information Services (ALIS) web site, participate in mock interviews and learn how to get results with your resumé. 

Thursday, May 1

Who: Alberta Works Café
Where:
The Women's Centre of Calgary 39-4 Street, N.E Calgary
Time:
10:30 a.m. to 12:30 p.m.
What:
The Women’s Centre of Calgary is a women only space. The event is open to persons identifying as women. AB Works will share information on how to re-enter the workforce. Drop by and have a cup of coffee while collecting information and asking questions. This is an informal drop-in session and no sign-up is required.

Who: Re-entering the workforce? What you need to know!
Where:
The Women's Centre of Calgary 39-4 Street, N.E.Calgary
Time:
6:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m.
What:
The Women’s Centre of Calgary is a women only space. The event is open to persons identifying as women. Alberta Works will host a workshop on how to re-enter the workforce. Join us to learn more, collect information and ask questions. Please sign up at caterina@womenscentrecalgary.org . The workshop is free of charge.

Friday, May 2, 2014


Who: Alberta Works Week Employment Resources Wrap Up Fair
Where:
St. Cecilia Catholic Church 321-90 Avenue, S.E. Calgary
Time:
10:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m.
What:
Learn about job search, resume writing, ALIS website and hot job opportunities. Partnership between CUPS and Alberta Works. Food and beverages provided.

Monday, April 7, 2014

Job Fairs happening in the Month of April:


Monday April 7- Wednesday April 9: 
                           
Who: Alberta Works Event: Job Search Boot Camp for Mature Workers
Where: Fort Calgary: 806-9 Avenue S.E., Calgary
Time: 8:30 a.m. to 9:00 a.m. - Registration, 9:00 a.m. to 3:30 p.m. - Program
What: Register online at www.futures-by-design.ca to choose ONE date to attend
For questions call 403-452-2210.
Lunch will be served. Space is limited.


Tuesday April 8: 

Who: City of Calgary 16th Annual Youth Hiring Fair
Where:
BMO Centre Stampede Park
Time: 1:30p-6:00p
What: Over 5,000 jobs are available! Employers will be hiring for full-time, part-time, seasonal and career opportunities from a variety of industries. Youth ages 15-24 are encouraged to bring their resume, dress to impress and be prepared for on-the-spot interviews. For more information on the fair or to view a list of companies participating in the fair, visit nextsteps.org or call (403) 268-2490


Thursday, April 10: 

Who: Alberta Works Hiring Event with Iron Mountain
Where:
Calgary East - Radisson Alberta Works Centre: Main Floor 525-28 Street, S.E., Calgary 525-28 Street S.E.,Calgary
Time: 1.00p to 4.00p
What: Hiring Record Center Specialist (Warehouse Associate), Courier and Vault Specialist.
» Bring your up-to-date resumé.

Tuesday, April 15, 2014

Who: Network Getwork Airdrie Employment Job and Career Fair
Time:1:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m.
Location: Rocky View Schools 2651 Chinook Winds Drive, S.W., Airdrie
What: For more info, visit airdrieemployment.com
 

Wednesday April 16: 

Who: Calgary Stampede Hiring Fair
Where: Grandstand Level 1 - 2200 Stampede Trail SE, Calgary
Time: 1.00p to 3.30p
What: The Calgary Stampede Catering department is looking for Banquet Servers and Dishwashers to work from May 17 – June 2, 2014. They are looking for great people to work Casual Part-Time through our our high school graduation events and the Global Petroleum Show.
They will also be hiring for Parking Attendants and Building Attendants to work Casual Part Time year-round at all of our events. To Register please go here.

Monday, April 28, 2014

Who: Employment Services Resource Fair
Where: Genesis Centre 7555 Falconridge Blvd., N.E., Calgary
Time: 10:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m.
What: Opportunity for job seekers to one-stop-shop for career and training services under one roof. Approximately 40 service providers will be on site to help groups who are underrepresented in the labour market, including youth, immigrants, persons with disabilities, Aboriginals and mature workers.

Monday, April 28, 2014

Who: Employment Services Resource Fair
Where: Genesis Centre 7555 Falconridge Blvd., N.E., Calgary
Time: 10:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m.
What: Opportunity for job seekers to one-stop-shop for career and training services under one roof. Approximately 40 service providers will be on site to help groups who are underrepresented in the labour market, including youth, immigrants, persons with disabilities, Aboriginals and mature workers.


Tuesday, April 29, 2014

Event: Champions Career Centre Open House
Where: Champions Career Centre: 650- 839 5 Avenue S.W., Calgary
Time:  12:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m.
 What: Great opportunity to learn more about client services. Champions will have a special one hour session on how your disability can be a competitive advantage.

Wednesday, April 30, 2014

Who: BGS Open House
Where: BGS Enterprises 100 - 910 7 Avenue S.W, Calgary
Time:  1:00 p.m. to 3:00 p.m.
What:: Learn about BGS and the NetWORX program. Ask questions, see their learning space and meet staff and current job trainees.

Thursday, May 1, 2014

Who: Alberta Works Presentation
Where: Immigrant Services Calgary  910 7 Avenue S.W, Calgary
Time: 5:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m.
What: Are you a newcomer or recent immigrant to Calgary? Attend a presentation about employment and training services offered by Alberta Works.
 

 

Monday, December 2, 2013

The Office Christmas Party

The Office Christmas Party

Whether you are attending your office’s holiday party, or going to a party as someone’s guest, maintaining a good impression is very important!  Here are a few tips to follow when attending the various parties this holiday season:

· If you are consuming alcohol, drink in moderation.  A good rule of thumb is a two drink maximum; this allows you to have a good time without getting out of hand. If you feel pressured to be drinking, have a soda instead of an alcoholic beverage in your hand - no one will be able to tell the difference.

· Ensure you are being social and mingling, making an effort to speak to as many people as you can. When you are speaking with co-workers, avoid talking strictly about work. You have a life outside of work and this is a great opportunity to share stories or talk about hobbies and common interests.

· Dress appropriately for the event, wearing an outfit that suits its formality. Ensure your clothing is not too revealing and not too casual. Note:  a “festive” themed party is not one where you wear tacky bows on a sweater; it actually means wearing Christmas-themed colours.

· If you are bringing a guest, make sure you discuss the importance of leaving a good impression, as your guest’s behavior reflects back on you. This also applies when you are a guest; don’t drink too much or conduct yourself inappropriately.

· Preplan for the entire evening. Plan your way home; arrange for a cab to pick you up, organize a designated driver or drive yourself home if you have committed to not drinking. You should also have cash on hand, as some parties are not open bar and you will need to purchase drinks.

· If your company’s Christmas party is being held on a weekday, get everything you need ready for the next day as it might be a late night. Also, make sure you show up to work the next day or people might assume you are absent because you over-indulged at the party.

· Remember, the party has been organized and is being held for your benefit - don’t be a scrooge! Have a good time and make sure to thank those in charge of organizing and hosting the event.


These tips will make it easy for you to have fun this holiday season while still remaining professional and giving off a great impression – remember, what happens at the Christmas party does not necessarily stay at the Christmas party!

Wednesday, October 16, 2013

Job Fairs October 17- 23 2013



Date:Thursday, October 17, 2013
Time:1:00 p.m. to 3:00 p.m.
Event:Hiring Event with YRC Reimer
Location:Calgary South - Fisher Creek Alberta Works Centre
100 Fisher Park II
6712 Fisher Street, S.E., Calgary


Date:Wednesday, October 23, 2013
Time:9:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m.
Event:Hiring Event with Sobey's
Location:Calgary South - Fisher Creek Alberta Works Centre
100 Fisher Park II
6712 Fisher Street, S.E., Calgary


Date:Wednesday, October 23, 2013
Time:12:30 p.m. to 3:30 p.m.
Event:Hiring Event with Drake International
Location:Calgary East - Marlborough Alberta Works Centre
1502 Marlborough Mall
515 Marlborough Way, N.E., Calgary


Date:Wednesday, October 23, 2013
Time:1:00 p.m. to 3:30 p.m.
Event:Hiring Event with Talentcor
Location:Calgary Downtown – Alberta Works Centre 
Century Park Place
5th Floor, 855-8 Avenue S.W., Calgary

Friday, September 20, 2013

Six Lessons to share about being a Employer of Deaf and Hard of Hearing people

Six Lessons to share about being a Employer of Deaf and Hard of Hearing people

Haworth in Calgary has long been a leader in employing people from diverse groups, and that diversity includes employing people from the Deaf and Hard of Hearing community.

In fact, at the height of our manufacturing production in Calgary, Haworth had about 12 Deaf and Hard of Hearing people among our members.   That was before Haworth made the decision to move our manufacturing facility to another location in Michigan.  One of the members, who was with us until 2010, was employed with us for almost 25 years.  Others were with us anywhere between 4 months (work experience student) to 14 years.

In other words, our commitment to diversity was not a fleeting fancy.  Of course, we had people from other diverse groups – for instance, lots of people from around the world. We did a survey at one point and found that 68 different languages were spoken in our facility!  Our communication problems were not limited to those between hearing and non-hearing people!  In 2008 Haworth was honoured with the Organizational Diversity Immigrants of Distinction Award given by Immigrant Services Calgary.

Who is Haworth?  What do we do?  We are a global manufacturer of organic workspaces – furniture, seating, walls, and floors. We employ about 6000 people around the world in our showrooms, offices and manufacturing plants. At our peak in Calgary, we employed around 1400 people; we now employ about 70.  What remains in Calgary is our Showroom and Sales office, and our Center of Excellence for our Walls products.  That means we have engineers, technicians, estimators, project managers and other Sales Support functions.

Why do we hire Deaf and Hard of Hearing people? Why not? Haworth made a decision long ago to employ people from diverse backgrounds. Looking for people from a variety of sources expands our candidate pool, helping us find the best people for the job.  Diversity brings different perspectives and experiences into our company, enabling us to learn, grow and get better.  A variety of people bring a variety of talents.
The Deaf and Hard of Hearing members filled a variety of positions within Haworth: Machine Operators, General Labourers, Assemblers, Material Handlers, Fork lift Operators, Custom Wood Workers, Computer Technical Support, Administration Assistant and a work experience student learning about becoming an Administration Assistant.
We learned a lot through the years about working with the Deaf & Hard of Hearing community. I hope to impart some of those lessons to you through this blog.



First Lesson: Don’t make assumptions. 

Each person is an individual, not just a member of the Deaf and Hard of Hearing community.  Actually they may not be part of the ‘community’ at all.

We had one member who was Deaf and wore a hearing aid who absolutely refused any interpreter support. I don’t know if he knew sign language or not. He has called me using the TDY services but other than that? Who knows! He would speak and read lips to communicate. Occasionally he would write a note. When we had a sign language interpreter in for meetings or assemblies, he would not join the other Deaf or Hard of Hearing members. He didn’t join them for lunches. I don’t think he identified himself with them at all. When we shut down our plant, we offered support to all of our members to help them find another job. We held interview and resume writing workshops, career fairs, and job search support. For our Deaf & Hard of Hearing members, we brought in Symmetry Solutions to help them with their job searches. Although this member refused the Symmetry Solutions support, months after his last day at Haworth, I spoke with him and he told me about a job offer that he had received – until the prospective employer realized that he was hard of hearing. They were concerned about safety. He had performing the same work for us at Haworth for many years. He was angry, with reason. I advised him to contact Symmetry to get some support, to perhaps talk to the prospective employer. 

We also had a member on another extreme. She was a very good lip reader and spoke very clearly.  We had many members within Haworth who did not realize she was Deaf at all. Our mistake was assuming at first that she didn’t need an interpreter in meetings.  After all, we understood her just fine!  But of course, person to person communication is very different from communications in a meeting, and she needed and wanted interpreter services in that setting.

The lesson: ask the member about what support he/she wants or needs.
Another example, one that Symmetry Solutions helped us learn, is that all the Deaf & Hard of Hearing members don’t need the same types of interpreters.  Some know ASL, some sign in English.  We had a couple of members who were from the Ukraine – I don’t know what type of sign they used, but I know that their level of English was not up to par with the other Deaf members.  This made it challenging when we were booking interpreters for a group meeting or company assembly. We relied heavily on Symmetry Solutions’ expertise. If we were having a meeting with one Deaf member, we learned that it was important to tell Symmetry who the interpreter services were for, so that they could find an interpreter who specialized in the right type of sign language.

Just because the Deaf member can’t hear, doesn’t mean that he/she does not benefit from being around other people. We had a Deaf member who spent most of the day working alone on the computer. Due to circumstances of people leaving the department, she was isolated from the others in the group. After a while she got bored with the work, less interested in it, and didn’t take initiative in taking on other work. In other words, she was not an engaged employee. We moved her into the ‘thick of things’, and with the increase of activity, she bounced back and got involved in everything! She was happy again.

Second Lesson: Plan ahead if you can.

Calgary needs more sign language interpreters!  It can be very difficult to find interpreters when you need them, even when it is a month or two before you need them.  So plan ahead, book them as soon as you know you need one (or two). Depending on the length of the meeting, you may need two interpreters so that they can trade off. It is difficult work.

The other thing that interpreters like is an idea of the material that will be presented, in advance. That way they can prepare, brush up on terminology etc.  That means that we have to be organized and can’t leave our own preparations for the last minute!

We had several occasions when there was no way we could foresee the need for an interpreter. For example, when a member had an issue to report to HR – something that had just happened in the work area.  On these occasions, Symmetry Solutions did their best to send an interpreter in as quickly as possible.  On at least one occasion, I remember an interpreter being on-site within 10 minutes to help us with the communications, and resolving the issues at hand.

But there are many occasions that you know about well in advance. For example, weekly or monthly staff meetings, quarterly company assemblies, annual and semi-annual performance reviews, health & wellness fairs, job fairs, training classes and workshops, new member orientations can all be anticipated. 
After gaining a reputation in the Deaf community, we had many applicants come to Haworth looking for work. We found that we needed a place on our application form for the applicant to indicate that a sign language interpreter would be needed for the interview.

Third Lesson:  Health & Safety concerns are no different than for any other manufacturing employee.

Safety is always a top priority in any manufacturing plant.  Hearing people find it difficult to imagine being without the sounds and other auditory cues that warn us of danger.

But it ends up being not very different.  Every person gets safety training; it is critical that communication is clear at this stage, no matter what language the employee speaks, so make sure you have an interpreter available if one is needed.

Every person working in a manufacturing or production environment benefits from the use of visual cues.  Best safety practices and lean manufacturing & production practices already include plenty of visual signs and flashing lights and markings and signals.  Many plants and warehouses are very noisy to work in, so further visual cues are developed to help hearing people become aware of potential hazards.  So the visual cues typically needed for the Deaf and Hard of Hearing employees may already be in place. Plus they don’t have the noise to distract them. 

Haworth has a very good safety record. During the time that I have been employed here, I am not aware of any accidents caused by a Deaf or Hard of Hearing person not being able to hear the potential hazard.  They aren’t immune to breaking safety rules – some will drive too fast, or not use their PPE’s consistently. It is the same as any other employee.

And finally, Deaf and Hard of Hearing have another advantage: they have learned to adapt to not being able to hear alarms or running vehicles.  Have you asked a Deaf person how they are able to drive a car without hearing?  How do they know when there is an emergency vehicle approaching?  How do they know when their vehicle may be having a problem – we listen to our cars, right?  Well they have learned different methods.  They use peripheral vision a lot more than hearing people do.  They notice those flashing lights more quickly – they pick up all sorts of visual details that hearing people miss. And they notice and interpret vibrations – small and large – more readily than us.

I would recommend that the fire marshal for the work areas where the Deaf or Hard of Hearing employee works is made aware of the fact – just in case. It is the same as with anyone else who could potentially need additional help during an emergency evacuation such as a pregnant woman, a person with a broken limb, etc.

Fourth Lesson:  It pays to go above & beyond to support inclusion

Everyone is a little apprehensive when starting a new job.  Add an extra challenge such as English not being your first language, or not being able to hear, and there is more reason to be nervous.

Make sure that when your Deaf or Hard of Hearing employee starts to work with you, that you make a point of making face-to-face introductions.  Be transparent about the needs of your new employee with your other employees.  It saves awkwardness from all directions.

I highly recommend offering Sign language classes to your employees. It helps make your new employees feel welcome and included when people make an effort to learn how to communicate in their language.  Don’t you appreciate it when someone from another country speaks English to you? And other employees see it as a learning opportunity that they may not have had otherwise.

Haworth wasn’t my first experience working with a Deaf person. I had a previous career as a systems analyst in the oil & gas industry and had a Deaf person report to me.  That company (like Haworth) offered sign language lessons to anyone who was interested. I ended up learning the most, because I was providing daily direction to the employee.  But many others learned some of the basics such as spelling letters and saying Good morning, etc. We all had our ASL names.  Deaf people are generally very happy to teach you more words.  I think my most common sign was ‘Again, slower!’  Just as with any other second language, if you don’t use it, you lose it.  So unfortunately I don’t remember much ASL at all.

Another note about inclusion:  I remember talking to one of our Deaf employees about the topic in general.  He was noting that people don’t tend to socialize with the Deaf employees very much at lunches or breaks, including those who work right next to him.  I pointed out that all the Deaf employees from throughout the plant tend to gather at breaks at one table. There may be room for others at the table, but it is intimidating, or at least not inviting, to others to approach them and join into a conversation when you don’t know what is going on.  Of course it is the same for them, joining a table of hearing people.  But he hadn’t thought about it from the other point of view. He didn’t realize it was the same experience!  So it takes a little effort from everyone, if you want to be inclusive.

Fifth Lesson:  Communication Challenges

Yes, there are many communication challenges.  See notes above about interpreters.  It is important to get an interpreter in to help particularly when the message is about safety, or when there is no room for miscommunication.  At least we can do that! The Deaf employees have an advantage here too.  Let me ask you: when was the last time you were authorized to hire a Chinese or Punjabi or French or Spanish interpreter?  At Haworth, we hire people from all over the world, many of them new immigrants.  We have communication problems every day with many people!   Actually, even speaking English to English!  So being able to bring in someone to interpret for us is a real benefit, and more easily justified than for our ESL employees.

It is a whole lot easier to communicate today with the technological advances.  Using email, IM and text weren’t options for us in when I was programming in COBOL in the 80s! Most people now have a cell phone with them.  No need to carry note paper and pen everywhere any more. And no need to even see each other in person! 

Remember to use the basic communication rules:  check that you understand their message; check that they understand your message. 

We had a couple of cases with Deaf employees at Haworth that went sideways, which I attribute to miscommunication.  Did he really understand the expectations? Was I being clear? How else could I have explained this? Was she upset because of the situation, or because she wasn’t able to get through to me about the problem?

These questions lead to my last point, which can create another challenge with managing Deaf employees.

Sixth Lesson:  Just because they are Deaf doesn’t mean they get a free ride

As I have already stated, communication problems exist between all sorts.  I think when you are dealing with Deaf people, or with people with limited English, you need to continuously work towards improving the communication. 

Unfortunately, you may also have to follow up with poor performers in the Deaf community or with Deaf people breaking policies and rules. It is particularly important that communication is clear in these cases. And what if the Deaf ‘problem’ employee claims to not understand, or that there is miscommunication, and that is what caused the misdemeanor or poor performance?  Is he or she speaking the truth, or using it as an excuse?  Make sure you have clear documentation of every attempt to coach or provide direction.  Remember that your interpreter has sworn an oath to interpret only. You cannot ask them for their opinion about whether the Deaf person is telling the truth. You cannot ask them to mediate. I tend to err on the side of caution in these cases.

But it doesn’t do anyone any good to lower your work standards for someone who is clearly not living up to them.  I had to let a Deaf employee go once after he worked with me for over a year.  It was his first job out of University. Years later he contacted me to tell me that he had learned so much from me, about work expectations.  Do you think I would have done him a favour to leave him alone, let him do what he wanted while he collected a pay cheque?  Not for his self-esteem; not for our company.


Not for the Deaf people who are trying hard to prove to the hearing world that they can contribute just as much as anyone else.  

Wednesday, September 18, 2013

Here is a list of Job Fairs happening in the Month of September/October:

Tuesday September 24:

Who: Alberta Works Retail Job Fair
Where: Calgary South - Fisher Park Alberta Works Centre
100, Fisher Park
6712 Fisher Street, S.E., Calgary
Time: 12.30p- 3.30p
What: Meet employers that are hiring part-time and full-time positions in Retail

What to bring:


·  A couple of copies of your resume.
·  A pen to fill out the paperwork
·  Patience - a career fair can get busy, we want to talk to everyone so please be patient and we can't wait to talk to you
·  Enthusiasm!.
·  If you have a passion for learning and helping others, we have a variety of positions available


Thursday September 26: 

Who: Job Search Boot Camp
Where: Banff Park Lodge
222 Lynx Street, Banff
Time: 9.00a-3.30p
What: Get ready for job fairs by attending this free session. Register online at http://www.futures-by-design.ca/


Tuesday October 1: 

Who: Airdrie Employment Job and Career Fair
Where: Rocky View Schools
2651 Chinook Winds Drive, S.W., Airdrie
Time: 1.00p - 4.00p
What: Discover jobs and training options at the Airdrie Employment Job & Career Fair

Wednesday October 2: 

Who: Discover Careers in Non Profit and Hiring Event
Where: Alberta and Blue Rooms, The Dining Centre
University of Calgary
124 University Gate, N.W., Calgary
Time: 9.00a-3.00p
What: Speaker Series includes a professional from the non-profit sector and Human Resources representative.
Register for the Speaker Series Here

Please check back often as this list is always updating. Or go to our Facebook Page where new job fairs are posted